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Postby Fred Goodall » Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:18 am

by Simon Bacon

The method I finally arrived at to treat my fish with the pumpkin seeds
is as follows-First source your Pumpkin seeds-I found mine in a health
food shop-cheap and loads in the bag-fresh could be better but knowing
Pumpkin seeds sometimes the quality can be bad. Ideally get pre shelled
seeds so you just have the insides to deal with-The Pumpkin seeds came
with a green coating-not knowing if this was artificial or not I scraped
it off-better safe than sorry.

Now the hard part-processing the seed-it is most important to reduce
the seeds to as fine a powder as possible-nothing else will do as the
Discus WILL reject it. My personal choice is to use a small bluntish blade
moved fast across the seed sideways which shaves off a very thin sliver of
seed-and in a lot of cases simply produces dust-this is good-you may find
a better way of doing this-as long as you make dust thats great. You need
to process around Four seeds into powder before you go further.

I personally use three cubes of frozen food as the carrier-defrost and
put into a container draining off all free liquid-I find the best foods to
use are Artemia and Beef heart but this can be altered for your fishes fav
food as long as that ISN'T flake or pellets. Add the powdered Pumpkin
seeds to the mix and stir in-I then leave the mixture to stand for one
hour-then it's feeding time-using tweezers I add a little food at a time
when I know the fish want to feed-it's important they eat the food as
quickly as they can so the chemical isn't lost into the water. It is
important that the fish ingest as much of the food as possible-if it takes
half an hour to feed them slowly then it takes half an hour-then i'ts a
case of monitoring the fish wherever possible. The chemical in the seeds
is supposed to kill the worms but if the fish ingest a smaller amount than
needed the worms may either not get passed or be passed while still
alive-it is MOST important that ANY worms are removed from the tank so as
to stop reinfection due to reingestion. It is a very good idea to do this
treatment a fair while before lights out as sometimes it can take hours-if
not days for worms to pass.


On my first trial treatment on a Discus I have seen pass a tapeworm in
the past I was SUPRISED to see within ONE hour a worm being passed which
was removed from the tank-no other worms passed. I thought to myself, well
thats great but maybe it was just a coincidence-so a few days later I
treated again-just before lights out-next morning I switched the light on
and within 15 minutes THREE worms started to be passed-it took so long I
called work to say I would be late as again it was important the worms
were removed.

I now as a matter of course do this treatment every 2-3 weeks and have
had no more worms pass-all the fish in the tank look great-the treatment
had no negative effects on anything in the tank-which is a mixed tropical

I now have a tank of young Blue Diamond Discus which I have noticed on
occasion have had swollen stomach's-one was so bad it literally FLOATED on
it's side on the surface-the Blue Diamonds are more picky and were more
selective of what they ate and so when I treated them they did not ingest
the food for a while-which I presume led to the chemical being leached
out-I again treated them and 36 hours later on returning from work the
fish that had the floating problem was passing a tapeworm-this I feel
could be a very good reason why it suffered a blockage. When viewing these
results it must be remembered that the seeds can contain very different
amounts of Curcubitin (the active ingredient) so results should never be
expected to be constant. I see no reason why a higher amount of
seed cannot be added to the food mixture but an IMPORTANT point
should be made --when feed to the fish I noticed a residue floating on
the surface--I was concerned this may have an effect on oxygen
levels in the tank but never found this was a problem.

I only have a small collection of Discus and only so many pet tapeworms
so I cannot investigate further, but I feel this was a worth while
investigation into alternative treatments which cost little and most
importantly THEY WORK.

I feel my Pumpkin seed treatment is a real alternative for people who
either don't have access to chemical treatments or who find them outside
there price range although it should be remembered that this treatment can
only have an affect on fish which are eating.

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