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The home discus business

Postby Mo Reyes » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:18 pm

So my father in law used to breed and sell discus out of his basement for about 8 years. He said he got out of it when his pairs wouldn't raise the fry. At the time there wasn't youtube or a wide use of the internet to learn more about the hobby. He had just heard about some egg yolk mix but couldn't get it right.

His stories got me hooked in fish and now im interested in making it work. I lost my job in the corporate world a few months ago and I figured this could be a good way to keep my mind busy until the US economy turns around.

I was thinking about selling to lfs and shipping nationwide. I would like to hear the stories from those of you who started their small/large scale operation. If you could do it allover again, what would you change and what wouldn't?

Is it easy to sell these fish in this economy?

This is the site I just launched last week. www.localfishbreeders.com
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Postby Tony Vaughan » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:27 pm

IMHO Mo - "For the Brave and Faithful Nothing is Impossible...........so give it your best shot and best of luck.

If I could give you one piece of advice I would say let quality be your best driver. It won't be easy as most LFS' want fish for nothing to sell at a high profit but you can sell to specialist suppliers or get to know some local LFS' in your area and build a relationship with them.

One that I would like to base myself on is Steve Rybicki of Angels Plus. You'll know what I mean if you have seen his site.

Best Regards and keep us posted :wink:

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Re: The home discus business

Postby Bob Daniel » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:24 am

I bred discus and sold them having at most six pairs at any one time. The best market I had was New England. People are stuck inside there several months a year and aquariums make a great hobby.

When I moved it all to KY, there was no market and I was forced to give it all up when my health declined.

With the internet and Fed Ex delivering overnight, things have changed. Neither was at a high level when I left the hobby.

Get a decent microscope, get a copy of Untergasser's Handbook of Fish Disease and learn to disect your culls.

Prepare for long hours doing water changes. If you can design a system that can do this chore quickly and refill your tanks your will be that far ahead. If you have 1000- gallons in aquaria, you'll need to warm and degass around 800 gallons a day. For breeders, you'll need a RO and possibly a DI to process your water to maximize hatch rates.

These volumes are hard on a septic system BTW.

Last, moisture from a lot of tanks will destroy your home. Get an air exchanger (big money).

Quality, quality, quality 24/7 has to guide all your efforts.
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Re: The home discus business

Postby Tony Vaughan » Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:45 am

Excellent post Bob :wink:

Would love to learn a little more on the scope you use as it is something that I can see myself doing in the future :thumbsup:

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Re: The home discus business

Postby Bob Daniel » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:14 pm

The microscope I have today is an old American Optical Model Fifty. I picked it up used and needing an electrical repair off EBay for very little money. It has two eyepieces on the top and several lenses above a mechancal stage with a lamp built in.

My experience is most discus parasites can be identified at about 100x.

If you are looking for a good microscope, look at used models at colleges and universities having a strong Biology program. There was a day when a microscope of quality was required for these courses. My friend Dean Fear got me my first real microscope. There was a shop in Cleveland selling microscopes to students and they bought and sold...

I keep refering to Untergassser's book but it has loads of photographs that will help you identify what you are seeing in the eyepiece. I believe your fish are better off when you are making health decisisions based on data. Examing and disecting culls gives you a good sense of the health conditions in your fishroom and adds value to your process.
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Re: The home discus business

Postby Tony Vaughan » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:33 pm

Thanks for the info Bob :thumbsup:

I heard that trinocular are all the rage and i've seen a few sold from India that are cheap but I wonder on the quality :question: :?: :question:

Untergasser's book is a great reference book and was ahead of it's time but have you ever heard of the publication by E J Noga............very up to date but equally expensive.

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